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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 27, 2016 0:00:56 GMT -5
You started your bullshit a long time ago with me buddy,so don't play Mr innocent. You are only here to stir up trouble. You got what you deserve. Started with you? Hardly. You and others' attacks directed at me started, via PM, long before I ever quoted you or responded to you in a thread. I never claimed to be innocent Dale. The fact is, you can dish out your nonsense all day long. But, when someone responds to you, you blow your lid and can't handle it. I stated facts, and you hated it. It's ok if we differ in opinion. That's life. It doesn't change the fact that you showed your true hypocrisy by banning me after all the incessant crying about how your voice was being silenced on MSF. Even worse, you edited my posts to show me saying something that I never said. Ban me, then call me out. Coward. |
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 27, 2016 8:11:53 GMT -5
You are SO bitter,you need help. Me Bitter? Not quite. Coward? And you wonder why you are banned. Don't post your lies and I wont edit them, period. This is a website with a specific agenda, so don't feel like you have to change us. So don't go away mad. Typical Dale Malusi....deflect. I'm not mad at you. I feel sorry for you. |
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 27, 2016 9:08:43 GMT -5
Additionally Dale....I don't post lies. Not here, not anywhere. In fact, if I've ever mispoken I admit it and fix my post. You saying you edited my post for that reason is an outright lie.
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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 27, 2016 11:50:32 GMT -5
You are SO bitter,you need help. Me Bitter? Not quite. Coward? And you wonder why you are banned. Don't post your lies and I wont edit them, period. This is a website with a specific agenda, so don't feel like you have to change us. So don't go away mad. Typical Dale Malusi....deflect. I'm not mad at you. I feel sorry for you. You seem so bitter,calling me a coward hiding behind an anonymous screen name. And you sound very angry. You don't know me and never will,so just keep telling yourself how ignorant and cowardly I am and maybe it will come true. And you could have rejoined this site under a different name, but you don't love being restricted, so here you are. You and all the other gentlemen pushing for more restrictions are just bitter that I had a hand in defeating the limpd proposals. Just wait, you guys are going to hate me next year. |
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Post by ridge on Jan 27, 2016 13:11:09 GMT -5
Easy Dale, before you blow a line on that new and improved ticker. There will be plenty of time later to get 'er done!! Peace and rest are the words for now. Godspeed, my friend!
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 27, 2016 13:57:54 GMT -5
Typical Dale Malusi....deflect. I'm not mad at you. I feel sorry for you. You seem so bitter,calling me a coward hiding behind an anonymous screen name. And you sound very angry. You don't know me and never will,so just keep telling yourself how ignorant and cowardly I am and maybe it will come true. And you could have rejoined this site under a different name, but you don't love being restricted, so here you are. You and all the other gentlemen pushing for more restrictions are just bitter that I had a hand in defeating the limpd proposals. Just wait, you guys are going to hate me next year. Wrong as usual. Not bitter about you or APR's. I call it like I see it, and you are most definitely a coward. Time will tell what happens with APR's. To be honest, at this point, I dont really care if they do or not. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 27, 2016 14:35:41 GMT -5
You seem so bitter,calling me a coward hiding behind an anonymous screen name. And you sound very angry. You don't know me and never will,so just keep telling yourself how ignorant and cowardly I am and maybe it will come true. And you could have rejoined this site under a different name, but you don't love being restricted, so mohere you are. You and all the other gentlemen pushing for more restrictions are just bitter that I had a hand in defeating the limpd proposals. Just wait, you guys are going to hate me next year. Wrong as usual. Not bitter about you or APR's. I call it like I see it, and you are most definitely a coward. Time will tell what happens with APR's. To be honest, at this point, I dont really care if they do or not. You insist on name calling, why? You don't know me. Let's get together and talk this over. Maybe if you got to know me better,you wouldn't be so trivial. Those that know me love and respect me, bee ing I can be a little rough around the edges. You are just here to rile things up so you better start looking for a naw IP address |
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Post by QDM MARS on Jan 27, 2016 14:42:48 GMT -5
Additionally Dale....I don't post lies. Not here, not anywhere. In fact, if I've ever mispoken I admit it and fix my post. You saying you edited my post for that reason is an outright lie. Just to clear a couple things up . I went through and deleted some of your posts and parts of other ones. You were given some friendly advice to hold your tongue on one issue . You chose to ignore that advice and chose to attack me, the ADMIN of this forum over it. You are lucky you are even allowed to post here on the open board ! This fact has never been hidden and no matter how passionate one feels about their contrary opinion it will always be this way. Those with that contrary opinion are welcome to post but at the same time they also need to understand they can ware out that welcome and it can be revoked at any time! BTW : With CWD now involved in the mix these QDM ambitions are no longer a reality and so in time this division they cause between the hunting community will hopefully fade away also! |
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 27, 2016 15:11:07 GMT -5
Wrong as usual. Not bitter about you or APR's. I call it like I see it, and you are most definitely a coward. Time will tell what happens with APR's. To be honest, at this point, I dont really care if they do or not. You insist on name calling, why? You don't know me. Let's get together and talk this over. Maybe if you got to know me better,you wouldn't be so trivial. Those that know me love and respect me, bee ing I can be a little rough around the edges. You are just here to rile things up so you better start looking for a naw IP address You already banned my IP address twice, and then called me out in an open forum. Go ahead if you wish. It won't do you any good. I'll have another one with a single click. How about a deal? Don't call me out or make erroneous statements towards me, and I won't post. You up for that? |
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 27, 2016 15:14:46 GMT -5
Additionally Dale....I don't post lies. Not here, not anywhere. In fact, if I've ever mispoken I admit it and fix my post. You saying you edited my post for that reason is an outright lie. Just to clear a couple things up . I went through and deleted some of your posts and parts of other ones. You were given some friendly advice to hold your tongue on one issue . You chose to ignore that advice and chose to attack me, the ADMIN of this forum over it. You are lucky you are even allowed to post here on the open board ! This fact has never been hidden and no matter how passionate one feels about their contrary opinion it will always be this way. Those with that contrary opinion are welcome to post but at the same time they also need to understand they can ware out that welcome and it can be revoked at any time! BTW : With CWD now involved in the mix these QDM ambitions are no longer a reality and so in time this division they cause between the hunting community will hopefully fade away also! That is false. You never edited a single post that I made prior to our PM conversations. To my knowlesge, the only posts of mine that were edited were imediately before/after I was banned. My offer stands for you as well. |
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Post by QDM MARS on Jan 27, 2016 16:58:09 GMT -5
Just to clear a couple things up . I went through and deleted some of your posts and parts of other ones. You were given some friendly advice to hold your tongue on one issue . You chose to ignore that advice and chose to attack me, the ADMIN of this forum over it. You are lucky you are even allowed to post here on the open board ! This fact has never been hidden and no matter how passionate one feels about their contrary opinion it will always be this way. Those with that contrary opinion are welcome to post but at the same time they also need to understand they can ware out that welcome and it can be revoked at any time! BTW : With CWD now involved in the mix these QDM ambitions are no longer a reality and so in time this division they cause between the hunting community will hopefully fade away also! That is false. You never edited a single post that I made prior to our PM conversations. To my knowlesge, the only posts of mine that were edited were imediately before/after I was banned. My offer stands for you as well. You must have me confused with someone else or confused about the issue I am referring to. There has only been one PM from you and that was back in June. I only bring this up as I do not want you to be confusing me with someone else . In other words it is not up for further discussion beyond that even if it is confusion over what the issue was !
I really have no preference on if you post or not like I already said
And no I am not worried about how many IP addresses you can use as there are much easier ways to control who has access to post on here if the need ever arises .
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Post by daappleknocker on Jan 28, 2016 8:06:34 GMT -5
This is my two cents on banning people from this site. I believe in the first amendment right to free speech. Opposing views expressed in a respectful manner should always be protected no matter what the intent or agenda of the site is. Respectful is in the eye of the beholder. There should only be one moderator who can delete a post, modify a post or expel a poster, and an explanation should accompany this action. Let's not belike that other site.
I was banned on the Michigan Sportsman site, for life, for one reason, they were afraid that I would be successful in showing their hypocrisy. I called them anti-hunters. By definition I was correct as they opposed traditional deer hunters. This infuriated them and they became scared.
When F-N-F post on this site the activity level explodes. Why would we ban him? Please let's not let personality clashes destroy the exchange of ideas, whether they support our agenda or not. We need to know what the other side is thinking and doing. Plus, it shows the greed and hypocrisy of their agenda. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 28, 2016 10:06:33 GMT -5
The problem is with me.
I don't like internet trolls. Anonymous people getting their jollies off in getting responses from their posts.
I agree, with you Curtis, the banning should be done by one person. But give a man power and he will abuse it.
I am sick and tired of all this bullshit from this unknown poster. At least bucksnbows has the courage to use his real name when harassing me. This other guy can call me names like liar and coward and go back and hide under his rock. Then he cries because I exercise my autority.
It says NO DEBATES at the top of the page.
CASE CLOSED
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 28, 2016 10:14:00 GMT -5
This is my two cents on banning people from this site. I believe in the first amendment right to free speech. Opposing views expressed in a respectful manner should always be protected no matter what the intent or agenda of the site is. Respectful is in the eye of the beholder. There should only be one moderator who can delete a post, modify a post or expel a poster, and an explanation should accompany this action. Let's not belike that other site.
I was banned on the Michigan Sportsman site, for life, for one reason, they were afraid that I would be successful in showing their hypocrisy. I called them anti-hunters. By definition I was correct as they opposed traditional deer hunters. This infuriated them and they became scared.
When F-N-F post on this site the activity level explodes. Why would we ban him? Please let's not let personality clashes destroy the exchange of ideas, whether they support our agenda or not. We need to know what the other side is thinking and doing. Plus, it shows the greed and hypocrisy of their agenda. I too was banned from that forum Curtis. There is no rhyme or reason as to what gets someone banned from there. Posts are allowed by certain individuals each and every day that don't even get a warning. It's becoming moderator driven based solely on agenda, and by that I mean both for and against agendas. A search of my posts reveals that the last 80+ posts of mine were only edited by me. Most for spelling, but some to not come off in an attacking manner. The edited posts were done only by Dale after I was banned, and only after being called out by him in an open forum. So, as far as having multiple moderators having their hands in editing posts, I can't say that happened in my regard. I do vaguely remember a post edited by QDM MARS quite a long time ago, but don't recollect why. I'm sure it was warranted for one reason or another. |
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 28, 2016 11:00:59 GMT -5
The problem is with me. I don't like internet trolls. Anonymous people getting their jollies off in getting responses from their posts. I agree, with you Curtis, the banning should be done by one person. But give a man power and he will abuse it. I am sick and tired of all this bullshit from this unknown poster. At least bucksnbows has the courage to use his real name when harassing me. This other guy can call me names like  and coward and go back and hide under his rock. Then he cries because I exercise my autority. It says NO DEBATES at the top of the page. CASE CLOSED Outside of stating that you come off as very angry much of the time.....Never, not even once, did I call you a name until after you banned me for no good reason, then called me out on an open forum. Did I debate here? Sure. So did you and others. Are you going to ban yourself and them too? I was as respectful to you and others as was given to me, probably even more so. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 28, 2016 13:43:42 GMT -5
Case closed
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Post by daappleknocker on Jan 28, 2016 13:52:57 GMT -5
I believe that good debate is healthy. That is how people learn. I did not realize that debate was discouraged on these forums. That is probably why when I write something controversial there are no responses and the forum goes silent. I have been very active recently with some controversial but truthful subjects. I have posted them on the STOP MANDATORY ANTLER RESTRICTIONS TODAY Facebook page. We need to debate these issues because I do not respect yes-men. If we cannot debate we cannot learn and if we cannot learn we might as well just give up. Let's all just be respectful of each others opinions. If someone offends you, send them a PM, in most cases I think you will get an apology. Hopefully. |
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Post by ridge on Jan 28, 2016 21:36:37 GMT -5
daappleknocker, I saw those posts on the page. When I read something, most often I need to reflect on it unless something jumps right off of the page at me. That usually only happens when I believe something to be blatantly false. Heck I even have to reread my stuff several times because I often see where I need to make clarifications and not just for spelling.
It also has really irked me lately that a few folks on the restrictions side and perhaps on the choice side also, automatically jump to the conclusion that we are all for or against an idea because of who wrote it; or because of what we write or do not write. Having an open and free discussion so that something can be learned and shared seems to have gone out the window. Now it is just a big war of words with somebody against somebody else. There are times when I have written something that I later disagree with how I wrote it or even with what I wrote as I may have intended something quite differently. 99.99999999999998% of the time I agree with every last word and thing that daappleknocker writes or that others from our group write. Having a free discussion should not mean that we disagree. That is why I thought this site was created. It does not mean that we debate the correctness of free choice or traditional hunting but that we work together to build the best ideas, plans, and programs. We also share a lot of outdoor news that does not come under either heading but it is just Michigan outdoors at its finest.
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 28, 2016 22:18:34 GMT -5
daappleknocker, I saw those posts on the page. When I read something, most often I need to reflect on it unless something jumps right off of the page at me. That usually only happens when I believe something to be blatantly false. Heck I even have to reread my stuff several times because I often see where I need to make clarifications and not just for spelling. It also has really irked me lately that a few folks on the restrictions side and perhaps on the choice side also, automatically jump to the conclusion that we are all for or against an idea because of who wrote it; or because of what we write or do not write. Having an open and free discussion so that something can be learned and shared seems to have gone out the window. Now it is just a big war of words with somebody against somebody else. There are times when I have written something that I later disagree with how I wrote it or even with what I wrote as I may have intended something quite differently. 99.99999999999998% of the time I agree with every last word and thing that daappleknocker writes or that others from our group write. Having a free discussion should not mean that we disagree. That is why I thought this site was created. It does not mean that we debate the correctness of free choice or traditional hunting but that we work together to build the best ideas, plans, and programs. We also share a lot of outdoor news that does not come under either heading but it is just Michigan outdoors at its finest. You do a great job with the outdoor news updates Ridge. It's great that you keep all issues where others can view them. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 29, 2016 5:38:13 GMT -5
You already banned my IP address twice, and then called me out in an open forum. Go ahead if you wish. It won't do you any good. I'll have another one with a single click.
How about a deal? Don't call me out or make erroneous statements towards me, and I won't post. You up for that?[/quote]
This right here is wrong.
A single click?
You want to post here so bad, go ahead.
You want to deal?
Post your name and address.
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 29, 2016 8:06:40 GMT -5
You already banned my IP address twice, and then called me out in an open forum. Go ahead if you wish. It won't do you any good. I'll have another one with a single click. How about a deal? Don't call me out or make erroneous statements towards me, and I won't post. You up for that? This right here is wrong. A single click? You want to post here so bad, go ahead. You want to deal? Post your name and address. [/quote] Yes. A single click. I post from a mobile device. I will not respond to the rest of your comment. |
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Post by ridge on Jan 29, 2016 17:11:09 GMT -5
A post was deleted by me. Let's everyone stop the name calling. It demeans this site. I will continue to do this or edit out any name calling by anyone.
If this thread can not continue without the personal attacks, it will be locked down.
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Post by field-n-feathers on Jan 29, 2016 17:31:48 GMT -5
A post was deleted by me. Let's everyone stop the name calling. It demeans this site. I will continue to do this or edit out any name calling by anyone. If this thread can not continue without the personal attacks, it will be locked down. Thank you.  |
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Post by bucksnbows on Feb 2, 2016 8:48:14 GMT -5
What's this thread about again?
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Post by field-n-feathers on Feb 2, 2016 11:41:16 GMT -5
What's this thread about again? That comment is grounds for banning Mr. Better be careful. |
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Post by bucksnbows on Feb 2, 2016 14:54:41 GMT -5
What's this thread about again? That comment is grounds for banning Mr. Better be careful. Lol. I'm used to getting banned. |
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Post by field-n-feathers on Feb 2, 2016 20:27:01 GMT -5
That comment is grounds for banning Mr. Better be careful. Lol. I'm used to getting banned. Ha, ha. Yea, me too! |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Feb 3, 2016 8:08:19 GMT -5
What's this thread about again? As any thread ever started in regards to MAPR's, it morphed, what do you expect? Here, I'll refresh our distinguished guests. "With maprs there will be more 6 and 8 pointers and less spikes and forkies running around." "I only want bucks to see their second birthday." "Good hunters aren't a problem, it's the weekend warriors that screw up the deer woods," " My neighbor can be hunting 100 yds away and have terrible hunting over the past 3 year(which is true) and we are having incredible success 100 yds away." "I argue that the DNR and the NRC wanted APR'S when they sent this to a survey. If not then why have a survey? If they thought it was a bad idea they would have dismissed it" "With the deer numbers so low in the UP a lot of guys are going to say, screw deer camp in the UP and start new camps in the NW13. Not that I really mind as I hunt mostly private, but I know all the state land is heavily hunted now and I fear it will end up like the public land in southern Michigan." "And u only have to pass on probably 50% of yearling bucks " |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Feb 3, 2016 14:31:03 GMT -5
This is a good one that DR Brauker uses all the time. He should use logic instead.
"Next time you go to your doctor to have blood drawn, tell him he cannot possibly know what your glucose or cholesterol levels are unless he draws all of your blood. How can he possibly come up with an accurate estimate with only a couple of milliliters."
A doctor does not draw blood, unless he's in surgery or cooking. Why would a real doctor want to kill me? Every milliliter of blood in my body is exactly the same. No two survey takers are even remotely close to the same as my blood.
Dr Brauker is a master at subterfuge. Sometimes it is obvious even to us cretins.
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Post by ridge on Feb 3, 2016 16:15:19 GMT -5
Doehead, I replied to the eminent doctor with something close to this. If anyone feels that the DNR is as accurate or is as close to being as accurate as their doctor, then I would suggest finding a new medical provider. A doctor being no more accurate than the DNR is a very scary thought.
There seems to be a little debate between restriction group members, unless this very gray winter weather is finally getting to me, that centers around whether their goal is to advance a buck one year or whether it is to grow older mature bucks. Lately the illustrious tornado jim resounds with the latter claim while at least two or more of his disciples plead the case of the former. I have yet to see that "mandated regulations" have provided either one to the deer herd. While some of the proclaimed gospel data being given says that fewer younger bucks are killed and that the level of older bucks has pretty much sustained itself, none of that data proves that more younger bucks "survived" than prior to the regulations. Nor did that data prove that any surviving bucks stayed in the regulated area without dispersing. Some of that data seems to indicate the population of deer, especially does, was lowered. If that is true, the herd may be far less able to recover from negative influences. Does any negligible benefit justify such a cost?
Whatever the ongoing debate is or is not, the data or this supposed trial has proven nothing. This is largely due to the fact that no evidence was sought during the trial to substantiate anything. No parameters for analysis were established to demonstrate anything. It has simply been an extended period of time for the regulators to gain more hand clapping and pats on the back which collectively PROVES NOTHING.
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and coward and go back and hide under his rock. Then he cries because I exercise my autority.