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Post by hartman756 on Jan 18, 2014 20:54:45 GMT -5
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Post by hartman756 on Jan 18, 2014 21:25:21 GMT -5
Here are the UPDAT members
Team Members:
Thomas Buckingham, East UP Citizens Advisory Council;
Ivan Darling, Hiawatha Sportsmens Club;
James Snowdon, Michigan Crossbow Federation;
Williams Becks, Soo Area Sportsmens Club;
Rory Mattson, U.P. Sportsmens Alliance;
Al Ettenhofer, U.P. Whitetails Assoctaion, Inc.;
David Johnson, Wildlife Unlimited of Dickinson County;
George Lindquist, Western U.P. Citizens Advisory Council;
Richard Taylor, Baraga County;
Paul Symanski, Delta County;
Michael Murphy, Luce County;
Kevin Erickson, Luce County;
Thomas Cogwell, Ontonagon County
To share your comments with Upper Peninsula Regional Deer Advisory Team members, see deer.fw.msu.edu/involved/upteam.php. |
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Post by ridge on Jan 19, 2014 21:31:04 GMT -5
I have a couple of questions.
1) Why is the UP using a separate process from the rest of the state? 2) Why is the UP regulation period three years when the rest of the state has to put up with the regs for five years? 3) My impression is that someone has in some way put in the fix with the DNR so that this board can run things? Since when do they replace the NRC? 4) Why do they have options that the rest of the state does not have at this time; or is the DNR hinting about an independent NRC decision for the entire state? 5) AA's statement is very interesting. I would like to know the rest of the story behind her statement. The DNR is making their recommendation on hunting licenses to meet the new price structure at the next meeting. |
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Post by ridge on Jan 19, 2014 23:19:54 GMT -5
After checking the Michigan.gov/dnr site, I discovered that the DNR had already made their recommendations at the January meeting. It will be voted on during the February meeting. It is very interesting that the Archery license and Firearm license has been replaced with a Deer License that can be used during either/both seasons. It does not say if a second Deer license can be purchased if the first one is filled. They have recommended the old style Combination license with two tags. The only difference that is stated between the old and the new is the price.
If they are keeping the old style combo license, then why are they changing the name of the other license? If a hunter does not fill the tag during the archery season, then there seems to be no problem. The hunter saves money. If the hunter fills the tag, does it mean that he or she must sit out the rest of the seasons? Something does not make sense with this Deer License at the moment. It certainly needs clarification. I wonder if we will get it at the meeting? If the hunter fills the Deer License, the DNR would lose money by not selling a second "Deer License" with the corresponding four point restriction. I have never known the DNR to want to lose out on easy money. However the question then becomes, why buy a combo if a hunter can buy them one at a time at any time? If hunters are restricted to one "Deer License" then that would make for an OBR for those hunters. That has not been recommended or approved up to this point as far as I know. Of course DMU 487 would be an exception to that statement. However this should mean some additional writing in the regs if I am correct about the Deer License question. If anyone has an answer to these questions at this time I am eager to hear them.
It seems to me that the DNR, like the IRS, in simplifying things has again made them more complex. Perhaps the idea is to force most hunters to buy the combo license. Let us hope there is a clear answer before September. It would be nice if the printed hunting digest would even be close to being correct for a change. AA's comment that this would be "The Perfect Storm" is certainly on the mark. |
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Post by ridge on Jan 21, 2014 17:19:41 GMT -5
Brent Rudolph of the DNR just stated that the above list in the article was incorrect.
Here is the one that he said is correct for the UP meetings:
The following are the alternative regulations that are being summarized at the open houses…
· One Buck Per Year (no antler point restrictions)
· 2 Point Minimum Antler Point Restriction (No Spikes)
· 3 Point Minimum Antler Point Restriction
· Current Hunter’s Choice Regulations (No Change)
· Modified Hunter’s Choice Regulation
· Pre-2008 Regulations
The “Modified Hunter’s Choice” option involves replacing the firearm and archery licenses with a single license good for any season, and actually was requested by the DAT as an option for consideration before the license package was taken up.
[THE SINGLE "DEER LICENSE" WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE WCO TO BE VOTED ON AT THE NEXT NRC MEETING. THOSE PURCHASING THE "DEER LICENSE" OPTION WOULD only BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ONE BUCK TAG which would be good for all seasons IN THE LP ACCORDING TO RUDOLPH.]
If the NRC passes the LP DMI proposal in April or May, the Deer License would become restricted to a buck with 3pts or more on one side in the NLP. |
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Post by hartman756 on Jan 21, 2014 22:41:00 GMT -5
That is even stranger, Ridge
I thought the whole point of the license restructuring was to simplify things and the whole archery and rifle deer tags were a part of that, and that was a done deal with the base license and a deer tag was a deer tag good for all seasons? Sounds like we might have been hoodwinked again with the reasoning for the restructuring and price increase! |
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Post by ridge on Jan 21, 2014 23:02:51 GMT -5
That is even stranger, Ridge
I thought the whole point of the license restructuring was to simplify things and the whole archery and rifle deer tags were a part of that, and that was a done deal with the base license and a deer tag was a deer tag good for all seasons? Sounds like we might have been hoodwinked again with the reasoning for the restructuring and price increase! Those thoughts did cross my mind. It is almost like someone had it planned out way back when . . . |
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Post by hartman756 on Jan 21, 2014 23:44:50 GMT -5
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