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Post by OTC-Archer on Feb 13, 2017 21:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by QDM MARS on Feb 13, 2017 22:07:58 GMT -5
I can say all the putdowns of the youth is one of the reasons I KNOW the MARs guys are just spewing bs when they keep making the claim the youth are on their side. From my firsthand experience the youth are being driven away from deer hunting over being treated like s*** from the MARs guys . Many who first were proud of the bucks they shot now really don't care about hunting much an more after the cruel way they were treated on social media by the MARs crowd . Even on the tipp of the mitt QDMA facebook page where the youth are allowed to post their "sparkies" they are not invited to the QDMA big buck night to have their deer aged by the DNR and have it entered into the manipulated check station data! I've been around these discussions for quite some time. The above post ranks up at the top for the most erroneous and libel filled piece of "writing" I've ever seen during any APR discussions. This type of libelous filled nonsense should not be tolerated. Lets start with the ridiculous claim that the Tip of the Mitt QDMA is treating the youth hunters poorly. This is a complete fabrication and in no way represents a shred of truth. It is a complete lie that the Tip of the Mitt QDMA group doesn't care about youth, or treats them with anything but respect. They are the future of our sport. Equally libelous and a complete fabrication is your claim that the youth are not invited to the Big Buck night. That is a flat out lie. In fact, all youth hunters that are part of the Tip of the Mitt were sent a letter inviting them to attend. The Tip of the Mitt also sent out free hats to over 100 successful youth hunters. Additionally, over $1300 worth of prizes were given away to all youth that were in attendance of the Big Buck night. This is a letter that was sent out to successful youth hunters actually requesting that they show up to the Big Buck night. Second, youth hunters are allowed to post any of their harvests. In fact, it is highly encouraged. Any rude behavior against them by anyone will not, and has not been tolerated. This applies to any harvest picture by youth, regardless of size or age.
I want to put and end to this argument. I has not gone unnoticed by many (including the youth ) that the youth with their smaller bucks were not publically invited to have their deer aged (in the posts with their pic of their bucks on the tipp of the mitt facebook page) when at the same time the adults with bigger older bucks were invited publically to bring their deer to be aged on that facebook page. Many people brought this to my attention and I checked it out and found it accurate . So wile the tipp of the mitt allowed the youth to post their pics on their page it is obvious the youth were not treated equally as those shooting bigger bucks. There may or may not have been a letter sent to the youth inviting them in private but the fact remains that they were treated different publically on the facebook page period!
It might or might not have changed for this past seasons posting but if it did it was only because they were called on it.
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Post by OTC-Archer on Feb 13, 2017 22:38:12 GMT -5
I've been around these discussions for quite some time. The above post ranks up at the top for the most erroneous and libel filled piece of "writing" I've ever seen during any APR discussions. This type of libelous filled nonsense should not be tolerated. Lets start with the ridiculous claim that the Tip of the Mitt QDMA is treating the youth hunters poorly. This is a complete fabrication and in no way represents a shred of truth. It is a complete lie that the Tip of the Mitt QDMA group doesn't care about youth, or treats them with anything but respect. They are the future of our sport. Equally libelous and a complete fabrication is your claim that the youth are not invited to the Big Buck night. That is a flat out lie. In fact, all youth hunters that are part of the Tip of the Mitt were sent a letter inviting them to attend. The Tip of the Mitt also sent out free hats to over 100 successful youth hunters. Additionally, over $1300 worth of prizes were given away to all youth that were in attendance of the Big Buck night. This is a letter that was sent out to successful youth hunters actually requesting that they show up to the Big Buck night. Second, youth hunters are allowed to post any of their harvests. In fact, it is highly encouraged. Any rude behavior against them by anyone will not, and has not been tolerated. This applies to any harvest picture by youth, regardless of size or age.
I want to put and end to this argument. I has not gone unnoticed by many (including the youth ) that the youth with their smaller bucks were not publically invited to have their deer aged (in the posts with their pic of their bucks on the tipp of the mitt facebook page) when at the same time the adults with bigger older bucks were invited publically to bring their deer to be aged on that facebook page. Many people brought this to my attention and I checked it out and found it accurate . So wile the tipp of the mitt allowed the youth to post their pics on their page it is obvious the youth were not treated equally as those shooting bigger bucks. There may or may not have been a letter sent to the youth inviting them in private but the fact remains that they were treated different publically on the facebook page period!
It might or might not have changed for this past seasons posting but if it did it was only because they were called on it.
We have shown you and others to be wrong Daniel, and yet you persist with completely false and libelous information. Shame on you for using lies about youth hunters as some sort of libelous argument. It will not go unnoticed.
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Post by jimmer on Feb 13, 2017 22:59:46 GMT -5
I want to put and end to this argument. I has not gone unnoticed by many (including the youth ) that the youth with their smaller bucks were not publically invited to have their deer aged (in the posts with their pic of their bucks on the tipp of the mitt facebook page) when at the same time the adults with bigger older bucks were invited publically to bring their deer to be aged on that facebook page. Many people brought this to my attention and I checked it out and found it accurate . So wile the tipp of the mitt allowed the youth to post their pics on their page it is obvious the youth were not treated equally as those shooting bigger bucks. There may or may not have been a letter sent to the youth inviting them in private but the fact remains that they were treated different publically on the facebook page period!
It might or might not have changed for this past seasons posting but if it did it was only because they were called on it.
We have shown you and others to be wrong Daniel, and yet you persist with completely false and libelous information. Shame on you for using lies about youth hunters as some sort of libelous argument. It will not go unnoticed. I am not Daniel but I stand by my claim that it is pure BS on your part that the claim of what I said did not go on on the Tip Of The Mitt facebook page. To back it up any one can go and look at that page and search through the years MARs have been in place and see that it did indeed happen ! In your groups zeal to manipulate the data on how well MARs were working you threw the youth under the bus by making their bucks less important than the bigger ones in regards to collecting the data at your big buck nights . Never mind the fact that I find it disgusting that this data was even allowed to be added to the check station data to make it look like MARs were working better than they are.
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Post by QDM MARS on Feb 14, 2017 0:12:36 GMT -5
I am also not Daniel
Myself and others noticed this going on in regards to the tipp of the mitt facebook page so it is not us who are wrong , and all others have to do is go look and see for themselves END OF DISCUSSION !
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Post by Dale Malusi on Feb 16, 2017 9:05:45 GMT -5
Daniel's my brother He is older than me....Elton John 1973
At least when I name someone I can provide a picture and an address! LOL!
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