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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 16, 2017 16:35:09 GMT -5
Tony Smith has posted this on a social media site and I just have to respond.
“While it's not a term I'd use, it has been used by some that lack some of the finer points of persuasion. Not unlike many that are staunchly opposed to trying something different.”
I take that phrase, finer points of persuasion, to mean, in a nutshell, bullying. Is it?
What are the finer points of persuasion? First I had to try and understand what persuasion really is.
‘Persuasion is a symbolic process in which communicators try to convince other people
to change their attitudes or behavior regarding an issue through the transmission of a
message, in an atmosphere of free choice.’
In other words, trying to change someones mind without deception.
Being deceptive when trying to change someones mind is coercion at the least, and it could be a felony.
What are some of the finer points of persuasion? From what I found on the internet, ( which means it must be true) there are only six. All of the others are kind of rough. But these are the sharp ones.
Reciprocity; you are getting something in return
Scarcity; The object of desire is in limited quantities
Authority; people listen to those that are or seem to be in charge
Consistency; if you keep repeating something, it becomes true
Liking; nobody listens to someone they disagree with
Consensus; the gang mentality
Do I sense Tony has taken internet 101, or have I just hit on an anomaly?
Those of us that are vocal in our opposition to Mapr's are not trying to persuade anyone. We just want a fair playing field. Not every deer hunter in Michigan is as aware of the persuasive movement taking hold in the bowels of trophy hunting right now. One word; doves.
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Post by hartman756 on Jan 16, 2017 19:08:29 GMT -5
I pick the "gang" thing . Most of the QDMers are not the type to think for themselves instead they rely on the gang or cult mentality where one tells the others what to think and spread as gospel. In other words they are followers and not leaders.
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Post by jbrown on Jan 17, 2017 8:45:58 GMT -5
Sheeple. Is the term I use
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Post by Dale Malusi on Jan 31, 2017 23:59:45 GMT -5
I rest my case.
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Post by otto on Feb 11, 2017 12:56:53 GMT -5
I pick the "gang" thing . Most of the QDMers are not the type to think for themselves instead they rely on the gang or cult mentality where one tells the others what to think and spread as gospel. In other words they are followers and not leaders. Umm.... Could that be because qdm is a management philosophy and those who believe in that philosophy are going to have the same mentality? Much like you guys. You have your beliefs and you all gang up on those who have different opinions. Sorry our gang is much larger than yours. |
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Post by daappleknocker on Feb 11, 2017 21:13:28 GMT -5
Otto, "our gang is much larger than yours", really? Sounds like a phallic response. You are correct that QDM is a philosophy. I have written extensively on that fact and that deer management should NOT be determined by philosophy but tried and true biological science. Our beliefs are based on the proven science of traditional maximum harvest management not large antler management. I believe a majority of the NRC members are tired of the hemorrhaging of deer hunters and are convinced that the major reason are MAR's being mandated on hunters. Time will tell but I think your "gang" should get ready for another BIG disappointment. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Feb 11, 2017 21:16:52 GMT -5
I pick the "gang" thing . Most of the QDMers are not the type to think for themselves instead they rely on the gang or cult mentality where one tells the others what to think and spread as gospel. In other words they are followers and not leaders. Umm.... Could that be because qdm is a management philosophy and those who believe in that philosophy are going to have the same mentality? Much like you guys. You have your beliefs and you all gang up on those who have different opinions. Sorry our gang is much larger than yours. Go play hockey Tom. |
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Post by otto on Feb 12, 2017 12:18:19 GMT -5
Otto, "our gang is much larger than yours", really? Sounds like a phallic response. You are correct that QDM is a philosophy. I have written extensively on that fact and that deer management should NOT be determined by philosophy but tried and true biological science. Our beliefs are based on the proven science of traditional maximum harvest management not large antler management. I believe a majority of the NRC members are tired of the hemorrhaging of deer hunters and are convinced that the major reason are MAR's being mandated on hunters. Time will tell but I think your "gang" should get ready for another BIG disappointment. I expect disappointment. Not because of what you say but because of cwd. I accept that fact. Disease should take precedence over antlers. |
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Post by otto on Feb 12, 2017 12:19:23 GMT -5
Umm.... Could that be because qdm is a management philosophy and those who believe in that philosophy are going to have the same mentality? Much like you guys. You have your beliefs and you all gang up on those who have different opinions. Sorry our gang is much larger than yours. Go play hockey Tom. I play on Fridays 9:30 to 11. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Feb 12, 2017 12:50:04 GMT -5
I play on Fridays 9:30 to 11. Good thing my banning privileges have been taken away Tom. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Feb 12, 2017 12:55:38 GMT -5
Back to the theme of this thread.
Tony said;
“While it's not a term I'd use, it has been used by some that lack some of the finer points of persuasion. Not unlike many that are staunchly opposed to trying something different.”
How did that work for him at the NRC meeting Thursday? Those finer points of persuasion were forgotten.
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Post by swampy on Feb 13, 2017 0:44:31 GMT -5
Otto, "our gang is much larger than yours", really? Sounds like a phallic response. You are correct that QDM is a philosophy. I have written extensively on that fact and that deer management should NOT be determined by philosophy but tried and true biological science. Our beliefs are based on the proven science of traditional maximum harvest management not large antler management. I believe a majority of the NRC members are tired of the hemorrhaging of deer hunters and are convinced that the major reason are MAR's being mandated on hunters. Time will tell but I think your "gang" should get ready for another BIG disappointment. lOL The whole big antler movement is a phallic measuring contest. |
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Post by jimmer on Feb 13, 2017 12:03:11 GMT -5
Otto, "our gang is much larger than yours", really? Sounds like a phallic response. You are correct that QDM is a philosophy. I have written extensively on that fact and that deer management should NOT be determined by philosophy but tried and true biological science. Our beliefs are based on the proven science of traditional maximum harvest management not large antler management. I believe a majority of the NRC members are tired of the hemorrhaging of deer hunters and are convinced that the major reason are MAR's being mandated on hunters. Time will tell but I think your "gang" should get ready for another BIG disappointment. lOL The whole big antler movement is a phallic measuring contest. I think one of the wisest decisions the NRC made was when they realized how the QDM movement was tearing the deer hunters apart and put a moratorium on any new MARs proposals . It is clear now how once again the same thing is happening that they are allowed again and it is hunter against hunter ! |
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