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Post by hartman756 on Mar 20, 2016 16:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by ridge on Mar 21, 2016 1:38:12 GMT -5
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Post by Dale Malusi on Mar 21, 2016 9:26:38 GMT -5
The bad part is that there are more out there spreading this disease at this very moment.
All the discussion about age and sex is moot, CWD does not discriminate when it comes to its victims. We shouldn't discriminate either.
It is all in the hands of the DNR and whether it spreads throughout Michigan is not the deal. It is how fast it spreads throughout Michigan.
I think about 5 years from now we'll have a better understanding about what is important when it comes to deer management.
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Post by hartman756 on Mar 21, 2016 11:45:50 GMT -5
The bad part is that there are more out there spreading this disease at this very moment. All the discussion about age and sex is moot, CWD does not discriminate when it comes to its victims. We shouldn't discriminate either. It is all in the hands of the DNR and whether it spreads throughout Michigan is not the deal. It is how fast it spreads throughout Michigan. I think about 5 years from now we'll have a better understanding about what is important when it comes to deer management. Yes I think the fact that it was found in a nine month old buck screams loud and clear that it is spreading while some are spending all their time and energy arguing over this need for more and bigger bucks. |
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Post by daappleknocker on Apr 28, 2016 10:10:45 GMT -5
You just can't make this stuff up. Pinefarm2015 says on 4-26-16 on controlling CWD, "The first course of action would be to make sure you retain and recruit lots of deer hunters. Without hunters nothing will be accomplished." I totally agree. But then he goes on to state, "Then I'd craft rules that best keep populations lower overall and guide hunters into killing antlerless deer." Two totally conflicting courses of action. You can't maintain or increase hunter numbers by reducing resource populations. Duh. |
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Post by Dale Malusi on Apr 29, 2016 7:20:12 GMT -5
That guy is another windbag that will go to great heights to further his cause, whatever it happens to be at the moment. Ignore him.
With CWD the enemy now, NO deer should be given a pass by hunters in the containment zone. Deer tags should be either sex, cheap and unlimited. One of the last things the DNR should take into consideration is how hunters feel. If they shoot too many bucks they will quit hunting. If the disease get too widespread they will quit hunting. It seems like we are walking a fine line here.
Sharpshooters don't use emotion when they do their job and they are more efficient doing it.
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Post by daappleknocker on Apr 29, 2016 9:21:26 GMT -5
I agree totally with your assessment of Pinefarm2015. The only cognizant arguments that he makes are quotes from other people and when he tries to interpret the quotes he goes off into gaga land. His latest false observation, opinion, is when he said on 4-28-16 under DNR CWD Monitoring thread, " if there's a wide spread feeling that processors can't provide safety from CWD and potential cross contamination, THAT ALONE MAY BE THE CAUSE OF THE BIGGEST DROP-OUT OF CASUAL HUNTERS, who would never cut up their own deer."
He is blaming the loss of hunters, or poor retention, on CWD? What a joke. It is a known fact that the biggest recent loss of hunters is MAR's, although this is fiercely denied by the pro-QDM and pro-MAR's proponents as it does not bode well for their agenda/mission.
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Post by Dale Malusi on Apr 29, 2016 10:57:13 GMT -5
I think if it gets to the point where deer processors are spreading the disease our DNR has totally dropped the ball in their CWD efforts. As far as I know all deer from the containment zone have to be tested for CWD before processing. I may be wrong about now, but back in 2008 that was the way it was handled. You picked up your deer after it was tested. We dropped them off at refrigerated trailers and picked them up when they released them. If they don't do that now they should. Even so, if deer processors start spreading CWD they should be eradicated. Or we should quit eating deer.
There are over 600,000 deer hunters in Michigan. You have twenty or thirty regular posters on that slanted "sportsmans" website, on both sides if this issue. For anyone to claim they have a majority they have to be looking in a warped mirror. Even the DNR/NRC doesn't know what a majority is, they put it at 66%.
We all know that a majority is 51%. We also know why the 66% threshold is there.
When the Mapr pushers say they have a majority they are going off of the results of biased surveys and making it sound like it is from truly random surveys. For them to be correct all of Michigan deer hunters must be included. Everything else is just a guess, or an estimate, as the MDNR puts it. Using someone else's logic, I would not like my doctor estimating the dosages of my drugs based on what the majority of his patients get. Then he waits 5 years for a pattern to show that he is wrong.
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